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I can't get why stare should be used in the passive voice after essere. Look at these examples:

La macchina è stata riparata da Max; La carrozzeria è stata rifatta; Due camicie sono state lavate;

My book says:"The passive voice in Italian consists of a form of essere plus the past participle, which agrees in gender and number with the subject of the sentence". It doesn't explain why stare is necessary.

  • Welcome to Italian.SE! – Charo Jul 16 '16 at 7:00
  • I love Italian, it's very passionate and has masculine and feminine declension which I think sounds cool. Right or wrong, I have come to think of it like the Ebonics of Latin. – Jay Jul 16 '16 at 7:12
  • Are you on drugs, @Jay? :-) – DaG Jul 16 '16 at 11:15
  • (Most European languages have gendered declension. English is one of the few notable exceptions.) – Mauro Vanetti Jul 16 '16 at 13:10
  • @DAG no, Are you? – Jay Jul 16 '16 at 14:26
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Your book is not very clear. It should have said that the passive voice in Italian consists of a form of essere plus the past participle of the main verb. In the car example, the main verb is riparare (to repair).

Let's start with the active form:

The car is in the garage now.

becomes

Adesso la macchina è nel garage.

and

The car has been two weeks in the garage.

becomes

La macchina è stata due settimane nel garage.

Therefore

The car is repaired by Max right now.

becomes

La macchina è riparata da Max proprio ora.

but

The car has been repaired by Max two weeks ago.

becomes

La macchina è stata riparata da Max due settimane fa.

There is no stare (to stay) in your examples: stato, stata, stati, state are not only the past participle of stare, they are also the past participle of essere (to be).

So:

  • La macchina = the car
  • è = is (but in English you say: has)
  • stata = been
  • riparata = repaired

Why does essere use the same past participle as stare? Because Latin.

The Italian past participle comes from the Latin perfect participle, but in Latin intransitive verbs had no perfect participle (exception: deponent verbs). This makes sense because in Latin the past participle is used only in passive sentences, and usually the passive form does not exist for intransitive verbs. In Italian (and in English!), though, the past participle is used for some past tenses, which made it necessary to assign past participles also to intransitive verbs and particularly to the active-only verb esse/essere (to be). So, the past participle for essere was borrowed from the verb of similar meaning stare (to stay); stare is also lacking most passive forms, but it does own an impersonal third-person passive form, therefore it has a perfect participle: the word status that several European languages are still using with the same spelling.

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You don't use stare, in general, for the passive voice. You are use stare for the passato prossimo of the passive voice. For instance: “ The car is (being) washed by Max” is “La macchina è [or, more idiomatically, viene] lavata da Max”. ”La macchina è stata lavata da Max” means “The car has been washed by Max”.

So, what we have here is the passato prossimo of the verb essere (sono, sei, è... stato), not a construction peculiar to passive voice.

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